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(Message zen:43) Subj: [L5RINFO] Rules for 6 April 2000 From: Zen Faulkes <zfaulkes@PLANET.NET.AU> To: L5RINFO@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:06:50 +1000 X-Accept-Language: en -- /blue/homes/cowell/Mail/mhl.format -- Greetings, From: Scott Hebert <scott_hebert@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Rules for 4 April 2000 >> Megada has specific card text that breaks the general rules. I don't >> see that it sets any general precedent. > > Um, Zen, how then _does_ one set general precedent if not for a > specific example that is not heretofore addressed by current rules? Rules and rulings are suppsosed to be general; thus, they follow and set precedents. Cards are specific, and seldom set precedents. > Did not Jeff Alexander say that _anything_ that modifies, cancels, > redirects or (to use my own term) 'mucks with' an honor gain/loss > considered 'changing'? Zen, I appreciate that you take the time to > daily answer our rules questions, but I for one would prefer research > into matters before hearing an official source. As I said several times before, Jeff's ruling is under debate in the Rules Junta. > But do you not see the problem of you saying, 'Oh, even if Jeff said > something different prior to this, this is my say, even though it > directly contradicts prior, higher official documents.'? Not trying to > knock you, but I feel it is a blow to your credibility to directly > conflict with Jeff when Jeff's post was posted first. My opinion, > at least. I have *always* said that if I post something that directly contradicts what Jeff (or Dave) has said, ignore it. ;;;;; From: Ted Renner <tvrenner@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU> Subject: [Dave] MRP For Politicals? > why aren't cards like Breach, Shame, etc. reprinted with the Political > trait on them? Because they're not Political. At least not by rulebook definition. ;;;;; From: Ted Renner <tvrenner@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU> Subject: [Jeff] Rules Inquiries > 1) Can a player using Seppun Sensei use a)Test of Honor? b)Iaijutsu > Challenge? Yes. > 2) Can a player using Seppun Sensei a) Gain honor >after< using Rise > From the Ashes? Yes. Not at issue. Never has been. > b) Not have their honor gains from earlier in the turn negated by > Rise? Under discussion by the Rules Junta. > 3) Does As the Shadow Falls stop honor gains for a Seppun Sensei > player? Under discussion by the Rules Junta. > 4) Player 2 is running Seppun Sensei. During their turn, player 1 > casts Rise from the Ashes. At their first chance to play an open > action during player 2's turn, player 1 plays Forgotten Lesson, > targting player 2's Seppun Sensei. > a) Is this legal, since Sensei are considered part of the > stronghold , overiding Rise's restriction against targeting cards? No. Forgotten lesson says, "Target a Sensei card." Can't do it during Rise from the Ashes. Doesn't get any plainer than that. > b) would Seppun Sensei cancel/not allow the Forgotten Lesson, since it > would potentially be altering the Seppun Sensei player's honor gains > for that turn? No. ;;;;; From: Gary Kirby <Kirbdog53@AOL.COM> Subject: event questions > I assume that since it doesn't specify, the force and chi of bonuses > of Return of Myth last until the end of my turn. Right. ;;;;; From: Vaughn Derderian <jst1vaughn@HOME.COM> Subject: Re: A Bucket of questions, thoughts and apples [Zen/Dave] > I think Zen is wrong about CoaaT. Unless something removes the terrain > from play, ending its effect (SupTac), the alteration *should* last > until the end of turn unless it has a stated duration. EXACTLY! The problem is that -- according to the rules -- the effects of Come One At A Time (and some other terrains) continue *even if* the terrain is destroyed. So you're actually saying I'm right, I think. > There is a case for 'while this terrain is in play' as a duration, but > I think that the lack of that phrase on the terrain is the whole > problem, correct? It really could use errata. Jeff Alexander has already ruled that Come One At A Time's effects only last while the terrain is in play (which is what I've been saying almost all along, dadblast it!) ;;;;; From: Sacha Chua <sachac@INAME.COM> Subject: Hiruma Sensei and the Twelfth Black Scroll > If someone has Hiruma Sensei and I'm attacking with a guy who has > the Twelfth Black Scroll, what whappens when I blow up the Twelfth > Black Scroll? Is that counted as ending a battle action segment? Accumulated Rulings on 12th Black Scroll: "Ends the battle without resolution. [netnews, 9/20/99]" So, no, it won't work against a defender when Hiruma Sensei's in play. ;;;;; From: David Sachs <sachs@FNAL.GOV> Subject: Re: Rules for 5 April 2000 > Which actions (if any), that are political because they alter honor > changes, do not contain some form of the word "honor" in their texts? As of Jeff Alexander's recent ruling restricting the definition of Political somewhat, none that I know of. ;;;;; From: Noah overton <puckstpr39@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Toritaka Kitao/Iaijitsu Challenge? > If someone Iaijitsu Challenge Toritaka Kitao what happens if he > refuses. The Iaijutsu Challenge is cancelled. Any effects that happened before he refused remain. Anything that would normally occur after he refused do not happen. ;;;;; From: Edward Bolme <edwardb@FRPG.COM> Subject: Re: The new starter packaging > How many copies of each deck do you folks buy? Do you buy one or more > copies of each deck? Currently, one of each for my archive set. I buy a second if there's a fixed card in the starter that I want to play with. I may buy additional copies for sealed deck tournaments. Zen Faulkes! * Crab Clan Scholar * Deputy Rules Yabby **************************************************************************** The L5R Home Page: http://www.wizards.com/L5R To unsubscribe from this list send mail to listserv@oracle.wizards.com with the line 'SIGNOFF L5RInfo' as the body of the message. Contents (c)1999 Wizards of the Coast, Inc. All rights reserved. |
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