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Subj: [L5RINFO] rulings for 31 Jan-1 Feb 2000
From: Jeff Alexander <jwa0@EARTHLINK.NET>

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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:46:19 PST
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>From:    Ted Renner <tvrenner@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU>
>Subject: [JEFF] Kuro Sensei Q
>
>Just a quickie: are there >any< effects that can trump the Kuro sensei
>trait and force a Kuro player's personalities to accept duels? Thanks.

     In general, a reaction that changes whether the duel is
refusable will take priority over a trait which is always present
when the two are producing opposite effects, since it will always
go into effect later.  I've seen folks mention Pressure and Code
of Bushido.  Those also work, although, technically, they reverse
your opponent's decision to refuse rather than deprive him of it.

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>From:    Del Lindsly <dlindsly@REXROTO.COM>
>Subject: L5R ButtonMen-Set for Auction
>
>Hey all............
>
>Current High bid:   EKister101   $57

     Auction postings are inappropriate on this list.  Please
keep them to the frpgtrades list.

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>From:    Curt Fiedler <curt@HAWAII.EDU>
>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Ratlings, and kolats and bears, Oh my!
>
>On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, David Williams wrote:
>
>> As of February 1 2000, both senseis will work as follows: When you
>> have one of these two sensei cards in play, they grant your clan
>> trait onto all of your Kolat/Ratling Personalities in your deck.
>
>THREE CHEERS!! :-)
>
>Now, we gotta figure out if the shadowlands strongholds give a trait to
>rats 'n kolats.

     Fortunately, it doesn't matter (at the moment).
Shadowlands-faction decks are exempt from the rule that lets
you buy your own Clan's Personalities for 2g less or for honor.
And giving something the "Shadowlands Horde" trait does not
give it the "Shadowlands" trait.

     The real weirdness is that the Spawning Grounds and
Sepulcher of Bone don't seem to be "clans" like the Horde is.

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>From:    Todo YJA Monk <peoples_champ@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Another Sensei question (no kolat rats!)
>
>I think this was discussed, but I missed the answer. It has to do with
>timing.
>
>Here's the situation. I'm playing horde and my opponent is Phoenix.
>I have two senseis in my deck (Nio and Yoshi). If the Phoenix is
>enlightenment, I'll run nio. If he's honor, I'll run Yoshi.  If he whips out
>Kaede, then I know he's enlightenment, and I'll pull nio. If he pulls
>another, or none at all, I'll assume he's honor and pull Yoshi.
>
>Here's the problem, who shows sensei's first? If my sensei choice is
>directly influenced by his, or vice versa, timing is pretty important.
>
>I hope you understand what I'm trying to ask, and any rulings would help.

     NOTE:  This is not really official yet.

     I think selecting in secret and revealing simultaneously is
the only really good solution.  If you don't want to use a sensei,
just pick any non-Sensei Fate card and shuffle it back in after
showing it.

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>From:    "Charles A. Boyung" <boyungc@MSOE.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Ruling Question
>
>>According to my often-faulty memory, there was a ruling
>>some time ago to this effect:
>>
>>If personality in a province has an honor requirement and
>>your family honor is currently below that honor requirement
>>BUT it will be high enough AFTER you pay full GC for the
>>personality then you can do so and play the personality.
>>The idea being that you acquire the honor first and the
>>personality hits the table second.
>
>So, was this a real ruling or am I blowing smoke. I didn't
>find anything about it in the FAQ/Rulings.

>Definitely blowing smoke, bud.  The honor requirement is the requirement to
>bring her into play, period.  There are no intermediate steps with this one.
>Paying for the personality IS bringing them into play.

     The original poster is right.  It IS in the FAQ.

] However, you do not have to meet those requirements when you start
] gathering your payment.  All that matters is how you stand when you
] approach her with the money.  (This rule only applies to purchasing
] cards, by the way.  Anything else you try to do has to be legal
] before you can start it.)

     You don't gain the Personality's own honor in this, of
course.  That doesn't come until you've legally and fully bought
her.  But if, on the off chance you're using something like
Imperial Acrobats, that counts right away and can push you over
the minimum.

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>From:    Ted Renner <tvrenner@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU>
>Subject: [JEFF] Timing Question
>
>For traits like that on Crystal Katana and Hiruma Osuno, does the trait
>kick in when the challenge is made, or when it is accepted? Could I, for
>example, use Osuno to Iaijutsu Art a Moto Tsume? Or would he be 7 chi as
>soon as the duel was issued? Thanks in advance.

     If it happens "in a duel", it doesn't start until the duel
actually begins.  That's fully after the challenge is issued.
Iaijutsu Art is legal here.

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>From:    Jared Devlin-Scherer <hinoryu@MEDIAONE.NET>
>Subject: Re: rules question[Jeff][Dave]
>
>sorry to bother you.  Recently I was at a tourament at a store in MA.  The
>question that came up was whether Isawa Taekuro's ability can be used to
>retrive nothing from the deck but still count as an action to the ring of
>air.  I saw the answer was yes, on this list a while back from Jeff.
>However, my opponent agrued and brought in the judge who, of course, after
>reading the card ruled against me.  They claimed I needed a hard copy of the
>document of rules.  So I am asking you to just send an email confirming (or
>denying) this ruling.  So that I can bring it into the store and complain,
>even though that wont change the past.

     You cannot choose to retrieve nothing if there's something
there she can get, but if there's nothing left, you can still
use her and it counts as a successful use.


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