(Message jeffa:296)
Subj: [L5RINFO] rulings for 1-2 December 1999
From: Jeff Alexander <jwa0@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: L5RINFO@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 00:50:17 PST
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>From: Jon Paulson <Takezo1385@AOL.COM>
>Subject: Re: 27-28 November
>
> The numbers set by the Iron Citadel become the new current
> value (just like when an Oath of Fealty'ed Ninja Shapeshifter
> copies a 6F Personality's Force, he gets 6F, not 7). The
> Sensei's abilities/traits are also completely lost.
> >>
>
>Not that I want to dwell on this citadel thing but does this negate ALL of
>the sensei effects such as the keade's can't win by honor (yes I know the
>citadel won't let you either) but in theory would it remove it anyways?
The Iron Citadel doesn't say anything definitive about
supressing the Sensei's text rather than eliminating it. Any
permanent results remain.
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>From: Stefan Lenfest <slenfest@CONCENTRIC.NET>
>Subject: Re: 27-28 November
>
>Philippe DUCHON wrote:
>
>> I can think of the situation where you're defending against no
>> attackers, and have a Garrison. And, for some reason, your opponent
>> chooses to resolve this battle early enough for Evil Portents to be
>> worth your while.
>>
>> I'm not sure whether a Shadowlands Yoshun with the Ancestral Sword of
>> Hantei _would_ be affected by an Evil Portents...
>
>hmm... Jeff?
He'd get +1/+0.
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>From: somebody <somebody@BATTLESWORN.COM>
>Subject: clarification req (jeff)
>
>Can I play a 0 chi (0 gold) Geisha Assassin (for purposes of playing
>poisoned weapon)?
Yes, but the Geisha Assassin counts as a Personality while
in the duel, and a 0 Chi Personality dies instantly. The duel is
aborted and there is no chance to play Poisoned Weapon.
;;;;;
>From: Nicholas Smith <NSmith@PROPOINT.COM>
>Subject: Yogo Asami/'Kolat' Threat (was RE: Rules Questions)
>
>I once played with someone that insisted that when you used Yogo Asami/the
>'Kolat' Threat card (when you had people back at your fief) at a battle it
>was the responsibility of the player targeted to chose a personality in the
>battle being resolved. He kind of has a point, but is it really the
>responsibility of the target player to make the action 'legal' if he has a
>choice of personalities inside and outside of the battle?
No. Read on...
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>From: Philippe DUCHON <duchon@LABRI.U-BORDEAUX.FR>
>Subject: Threat [Jeff]
>
>This is not a threat to Jeff, but more like a question about the DJH
>card, Threat:
Whew!
> Threat, actions, C, Dark Journey Home Cost: 1, Focus: 2
>
> Kolat Open: Target one player, who must bow one Personality he or
> she controls (target's choice). You cannot perform this action
> during battle unless the target player has one or more unbowed
> Personalities not assigned to a battle. Lose Honor equal to the
> Force of the Personality that is bowed.
>
>Since the string "Threat" doesn't appear in the Accumulated Rulings,
>FAQ, or Errata list on Jeff's page, I'll assume there is nothing I'm
>missing.
>
>Now, the question is, can this card _ever_ be used in Battle?
No. I've already noticed this and double-checked with Dave.
>By card text, is seems to be implied that there _may_ be situations
>when I can. But, there is no way it can satisfy the rule of relevance
>(OK, there _is_ a way; if it's discarded and copied by The Path Not
>Taken, it can then be cast by a Shugenja/Monk in the battle)...
>
>And, if it's a special exception because it does mention a condition
>for it to be playable in a battle - it doesn't specifically say how
>much of the rules it breaks. Does it break relevance? presence? both?
It does not *explicitly* break either rule. By the latest
rulebook, it breaks neither.
;;;;;
>From: Andy Bodkin <andybod@B0DDERS.DEMON.CO.UK>
>Subject: Simple timing question
>
>Can I use Sun in Shadow to cancel a kiho, after playing One Life, One
>Action to stop any more of that kiho being played ?
>
>I would assume not, as OLOA states after another player resolves an
>action card which suggests the action needs to take place. Sun in Shadow
>on the other hand says as it is being cast.
You are correct.
>In other words, it looks like I can either cancel it or one life, one
>action it not both but would be grateful for confirmation as doing both
>would be rather nice.
You can't do both.
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>From: Christian Riley <Drtyrm@AOL.COM>
>Subject: [Jeff]Eternal Halls of the Shiba...
>
>In regards to the Eternal Halls Kiho-cycling ability,
>
>"You cannot use this ability twice with the same kiho"
>
>Does this mean:
>A) You can use the ability with each *card* once (6 uses)
>
>or
>
>B) You can use the ability with each *kiho* once (4 uses)
A). This is in the FAQ.
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>From: Dean McNabb - Tegel <DeanM@TEGEL.CO.NZ>
>Subject: Re: Doom of the Brotherhood
>
>[DM] Sorry if I sound ignorant but I don't have the card in front of me and
>I cannot remember the exact wording, but....
>
>Does this ruling effect Shosuro Nishiko's ability in any way?
No. Nishiko doesn't say "discarded from play" anywhere.
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>From: Dean McNabb - Tegel <DeanM@TEGEL.CO.NZ>
>Subject: Re: 27-28 November
>
>[DM] ...so philosopher should have been a *reaction* to the current phase
>ending to allow you either to play one more action or to allow you to play
>an action thereby allowing other players to continue as well?
That's one way that would have worked, yes.
;;;;;
>From: Jared Chavez <OtakuThndr@AOL.COM>
>Subject: Kakita Yoshi Question
>
>Can my oppenent use kakita Yoshi out of the battle to take the Imperial
>favor
>and send my units home?
No. Any Open or Battle Action taken during battle must
target, affect, or come from something in the battle or the
battle itself. That's the "Rule of Relevance". Yoshi's action
doesn't satisfy any of these if he's not there.
;;;;;
>From: James Collier <smalltownpress@AZTEC-NET.COM>
>Subject: Re: 27-28 November
>
> A personality with Kitsuki Kaagi's Journal would not be affected, as
>Evil Portents is not a Ninja action. Other examples could include
>personalities affected by Crane Tattoo and Inner Fire.
Someone else already said this, but it's important enough to
bear repeating:
The Journal prevents targetting with actions. Actions which
don't target at all -- like Evil Portents -- have full effect.
The Journal does NOT allow targetting with Ninja Actions.
The Journal allows Actions which target only Ninja cards to
target cards in the Journal's unit whether they're Ninja or not.
;;;;;
>From: Bob Yager <bobyager@MAIL.DAKOTA.NET>
>Subject: Re: Kuni Utagu and Maho, was [L5RINFO] Pre-ordained?
>
>>> Good point. BUT the point was that Utagu can automatically duel anoyone
>>> with the maho trait. Cultists don't have it and don't give it to their
>>> boss.
>>
>>Cultists also may or may not practice maho, depending on their cult.
>Kuni Utagu can
>
>Open: Bow to challenge to a duel any Personality that has a Maho ability, a
>Black Scroll attached, or has used a Maho action during the game. This
>duel may not be refused.
>
>I believe that Cultists casting kihos is a Maho Action. As the Cultists
>are attached to a personality, i would think it is safe to say that
>personality used a Maho action and can be challenged.
Not true. A Personality is NOT acting just because a
Follower (or Item) attached to him acts.
;;;;;
>From: Kakita Musashi <kakita_musashi@YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: Tricky Question [Dave, Jeff, Zen]
>
>[long False Tao play example deleted]
>
>Who wins the game?
>
>Me, being at 40+ honor, or him who now has 5 rings in play?
>
>Logic dictates that since it is now my turn, I am the active player and I
>win.
>
>Especially since there is no time from when my opponent says "Done." to the
>beginning of my turn.
>
>This is a headscratcher.
I, understandibly I hope, do not feel comfortable with a
ruling that makes the beginning of this turn happen before the
end of last turn.
Your opponent wins.
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