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From:    dave schwimmer <davsch@wizards.com>
Subject: > Subject: [Luke/Ed/?] Points for Advancement at GenCon

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In answer to the question below, if I understand it correctly.  All of the point based invitations have been given at this point.  All other invites to the final battle of the War in the Heavens will be based upon finish order.  Please see below.

Winner of each "Kotei Emperor" tournament. 
€Top lifetime-ranked player from each Clan. 
€Top 10-ranked players based on their best six finishes from the last six months (December 15 to June 15). 
€Top-ranked player from each Clan based on their best six finishes from the last six months (December 15 to
  June 15). (Invitation doesn't pass down if the player is already invited.) 
€Top 16 players from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" tournament. 
€Top Clan player from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" tournament. (Invitation doesn't pass
  down if the player is in the Top 16.) 
€Two random players from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" tournament, who finish all the
  rounds of the segment. 

If you have any more questions, feel free to email me directly.

> Thing-knowing-people -
>
> 	I was recently looking at the DCI points page (for L5R, of
> course) and realized something...I got the vast majority of my
> points for advancing to the elimination rounds of Gen Con last year.
> Then a thought struck me...it's anticipated that there will be many
> more participants in this year's GC World Championships, and
> since "Size Matters" for tournies, I assume points will be similarly
> larger (or am I mistaken?  Perhaps once a threshold is reached,
> attendence is no longer important).
>
> 	Since seeding (in actuality "byes" into the elimination rounds,
> since actual seeds are not being issued) is determined in part by
> points (for some of the byes), and getting into the later rounds of a
> major tourney nets major points, isn't this sort of a self-
> perpetuating cycle?  I guess what I'm asking is this...will everyone
> in the Sunday rounds receive equal points for making it to the
> Sunday rounds?
>
> 	If "yes," then it has the unfortunate effect of granting more
> points to those who got into the round based on strength of
> previous points thereby helping to perpetuate a cycle (though the
> player still must do well in other events to keep up on other
> players), and I do recognize that there are two blocks of people
> getting in on points (Lifetime vs Last 6 Months, right?), so only one
> group will really be directly aided.  It just seems a little difficult to
> accept that Player A gets xxxx points for slogging through a 7-
> round swiss event while Player B also gets xxxx for having scored
> a lot of points in their weekly tournies 5 minutes from their house
> (as well as playing for a long time and garnering some high
> placings).  What about Player C who was randomly selected from
> the crowd in a prelim (in which they went 1-6)?
>
> 	If the answer is "no," I don't envy the bookkeepping job
> someone will have to do.  This situation will certainly be difficult to
> resolve while keeping any remaining validity the points/ranking
> system has to date.  I guess I would hope for/recommend the
> following:
>
> 	Bonus Points for players who advanced through record on each
> day of prelims - Byes/Random Draws get xxxx for making Sunday,
> Record Advancers get xxxx + yyyy.
>
> 	Points for the final 8 determined as normal.  In this way, those
> people who played an extra 7 rounds (minimum) and showed a
> combination of skill and fortune are given an extra reward for their
> extra work (and huge block of valuable time spent at the biggest
> 'Con in the world), while those with Byes and Random
> Advancement get into Sunday as their reward.  Perhaps some
> color-coding on the cards will help things.  I don't know.

Dave Schwimmer,
Premier Events Coordinator
Wizards of the Coast
davsch@wizards.com
(425)204-7242


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