(Message daves:1)
Subj: Re: l5rinfo Digest for 21 Jul 1999
From: dave schwimmer <davsch@wizards.com>

  To: <l5rinfo@frpg.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:13:49 PDT
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>Huh? First off their is 13 people here.. How exactly are you determining
>top six? What do you mean by the top six clan finishes? Also, half the
>people on here are from Spain, which has only had a *total* of SIXTEEN
>tournaments in the last 6 months according to the DCI page.

The reason there are 13 people there is because of the following:

1) I wasn't perfectly clear in posting the following, I will break this 
down item by item to try to make it more clear.

Tournament Eligibility

 All players are eligible to play in the preliminary battles as long as 
they are not currently qualified to play in the final
 battle on Sunday. 

Qualified Players for the Final Battle 

>Winner of each "Kotei Emperor" tournament. 

These are not yet posted, but will be by Monday.

>Top lifetime-ranked player from each Clan. 

This is exactly what it posted on the website and what I posted to the 
list.  I realize you have problems with the "lifetime" aspect of invites, 
as do I.  However, this is the last year where players will be invited 
based upon lifetime points.

>Top 10-ranked players based on their best six finishes from the last six 
months (December 15 to June 15). 

Here is the first part of that 13 player list.  The actual list consisted 
of these 10 players:
	Dionisto Barrasa	637	41		Barcelona
	Sergio Martin	443	38		Barcelona
	Eric Wiener	440	27	Crane	Hollywood, FL
	David Ubeda	406	42		Barcelona
	Daniel Metaute	399	48		Barcelona
	Jim Beck	346	29	Phoenix	Ft Lauderdale
	Jose Santos	339	38		Spain
	Joseph Italiano	288	36	Crab	Mitcham, Victoria, AU
 Mark Wootton	287	22	Crane	Strathmiglo Fife, UK
 	Raul Caballero	281	33		Viladecans, Spain

>Top-ranked player from each Clan based on their best six finishes from the 
last six months (December 15 to
>June 15). (Invitation doesn't pass down if the player is already invited.) 

This second part of the 13 had the folowing players:
Joseph Italiano	288	36	Crab	Mitcham, Victoria, AU
Eric Wiener	440	27	Crane	Hollywood, FL
Vaughn Dendanian	134	25	Dragon	North Carolina
Shawn Hill	122	12	Lion	Largo, FL
Vaughn Dendanian	218	19	Naga	North Carolina
Jim Beck	346	29	Phoenix	Ft Lauderdale
Ray Daugherty	209	16	Unicorn	Latham, NY

Please note, that players who had not played in at least 6 events within 
the 6 month window were not added to this list.  Therefore, there are 
only 7 clans represented in this list.  Now if you'll notice the overlap 
on these two lists, you'll see why the list ended up at 13 players.


>Top 16 players from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" 
tournament. 
 
This happens at GenCon.

>Top Clan player from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" 
tournament. (Invitation doesn't pass
>down if the player is in the Top 16.) 

This happens at GenCon.

>Two random players from each preliminary battle of the "War in the Heavens" 
tournament, who finish all the
>rounds of the segment. 

Yep, you guessed it, this too, happens at GenCon (seems like a trend, 
doesn't it? :-)




>You know, this bugs me. This bugs me a lot. We were told that when
>seeding was determined for top of each clan it would be based on how
>often a person won WITH that clan. This list apears to be taken directly
>off of the DCI rankings page for top lifetime players of each clan. That
>list obviously rolls over points from before the DCI took over the
>rankings. You know, from when it didnt matter what clan you played in
>tournament you just declaired your alliegence. The last six months DCI
>was supposed to be keeping track of such things. I was very suprised when
>we didnt get a list of that sort up on the rankings page. Seeding based
>on points unto itself is a system that makes no sense to me. The only
>reason I was willing to "give it a chance" was that it was supposed to be
>more than just grandfathering in the lifetime players. We were supposed
>to have actual representaion of players who played each clan well.

We did do both.  If the explanations above were not clear enough, please 
feel free to email me directly and I'll try to make it more clear.

>Then there is also the fact that no one will ever be able to catch up
>with these players because the new DCI system appears to have been based
>on a totally different point system which awards far fewer points Which
>honestly wouldnt be a problem if the points werent being used for
>seeding.

But, you won't have to worry about that because this is the last year in 
which seedings will be awarded based upon lifetime rankings.


Hope that helps.


Dave Schwimmer,
Premier Events Coordinator
Wizards of the Coast
davsch@wizards.com
(425)204-7242


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